Additional commentary by
Timothy Horrigan
(member of the House Petitions & Redress
Committee)
last revised November 21, 2012
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To my surprise, I continued to be a member of the New Hampshire House Petitions & Redress Committee throughout its first (and likely last) two years of existence.
I have treated my committee like any other committee and I treat its petitions like I treat all other legislative vehicles. I am respectful and objective, but I am also skeptical. I have also operated under the assumption that everything the committee does is— and should be— in the public domain (although I did have to change my thinking on this issue near the end of the session.)
I have been showing up at the public meetings and doing the people's work, which is more than I can say for the rest of the committee. About half the regular members of the committee— Republicans and (to a lesser extent) Democrats alike— stopped showing up. I can't blame my absentee colleagues. Ours is a frustrating committee assignment. We rarely make any actual decisions, we never know what's really going on, and it is unclear what our powers are. But it is still an important assignment.
My late father's last piece of political advice to me was that I should request a different committee assignment if the people returned me to the House after the 2012 election. He didn't like my committee assignment at all (although I actually enjoy it, most of the time.) We talked about this on his deathbed about three weeks before he passed on September 25, 2011.
Here is a list of the petitions introduced in 2012. The first one, Petition #11, was technically introduced during the 2011 session, which lasted three calendar years, beginning in December 1, 2010 and not officially ending until we adjourned just before lunch on January 4, 2012. The Vandenberg petition was introduced on the morning of January 4.
The sponsors are all Republicans. I have put up HTML pages about each petition, and I put several of them in some context. I tried to be fair to the petitioners— but I also tried to be fair to the other parties involved in these petitions, and to all the people of my state. If I am tossed off the committee as a result, so be it. Here they are:
Petition 22: grievance of Joseph Haas
Petition 23: grievance of Bill and Mary Cloutier
Petition 24: grievance of William J. Donovan, III
"CMC" = "Catholic Medical Center" (on the West Side of Manchester, NH) Back in the mid-1990s, CMC tried to merge with a secular hospital, Elliot Hospital. The effort failed, mostly because of CMC's religious traditions. More recently, beginning in 2009, CMC tried to merge with the Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center. The prime sponsor Rep. Kathleen Souza (R-Manchester) is strongly "pro-life"
Petition 29: [withdrawn]
Petition 32: grievance of 300-plus citizens of the City of Rochester
You can also download a PDF of each petition (just the petitions themselves) by clicking on the appropriate link in the following list:
PDF of Petition 25: grievance of the Community Action Group to Save CMC Again
PDF of Petition 32: grievance of 300-plus citizens of the City of Rochester
At the March 22, 2012 session, the Full House took an historic vote at the behest of the Redress Committee's chair, Rep. Paul Ingbretson. Although Ingbretson had been rambling randomly about the possibility of issuing subpoenas for a while, the actual rule-making process happened in a few short days while most reps were worrying about other stuff. On Thursday March 15, 2012, the proposed rules change turned up on the next day's Rules Committee calendar. The Rules Committee consists of seven members of the Republican leadership and two Democratic leaders, and it meets rather sporadically— and, the Friday, March 16 hearing was their first meeting in a couple of months. I sat in on the meeting and did not speak to the rules change— which was approved on party lines and placed on the next session day's calendar.
I did speak to the next item on the Rules Committee's agenda (a request to resubmit Petition #29.) For several minutes, I was criticized rather sharply over seemingly unrelated stuff by three members of the Republican leadership. Ironically, I was trying to agree that Petition #29 should be reintroduced. (It was reintroduced as Petition #34.)
In any case, the new rule (which passed the full House 241-114) makes it much easier for a House Committee to get a subpoena. Any committee can now ask for a subpoena by a simple majority vote. The Rules Committee and the Speaker would still have to sign off on the request, but the full House would have not get to vote on the matter. The courts would have no say, either.
The only standing committee which actually has any interest in subpoenaing anyone is the Redress Committee. Ingbretson's rationale is evidently based on a misinterpretation of Health & Human Service and judicial-branch officials' polite refusals. He claims people have told him they would love to come in, but only under subpoena. He implies that they are eager to fess up and are currently held back by the fear of retaliation from their vicious highers-up if they tell the truth. I believe that what those folks really meant was that they would prefer not to come in and testify, but if they were subpoenaed, they would honor the subpoenas.
Even if we do subpoena these people, there is no guarantee that they will give us the answers we are looking for. Indeed, we (apparently) have no way to force them to give any answers at all, since we have no obvious way to punish them.
The new rule gives the committees the power of subpoena duces tecum as well: that means we can order the witness to bring papers, books, or other items with her. The whole phrase "subpoena duces tecum" means "bring the stuff with you, or else!"
The new rule is:
No subpoena shall issue except by majority vote of the
Committee on Rules and upon the signature of the Speaker. The
Committee on Rules shall determine the form of subpoenas and
subpoenas duces tecum and specify conditions if any with
regard to the issuance and use of such subpoenas.
Any
Committee that has voted to seek the issuance of a subpoena or a
subpoena duces tecum shall, through its Chairman, make a
written request to the Committee on Rules. The request shall
identify with particularity the witness or witnesses the requesting
Committee seeks to subpoena or, in the case of a subpoena duces
tecum, the information and materials the requesting Committee
seeks to obtain. The request shall provide a sufficient
explanation for the Committee on Rules to understand the purpose for
which the witness or information is sought and why it is necessary
to subpoena the witness or information and materials.
The
Committee on Rules shall consider the request at its next meeting.
The Committee on Rules may grant the request in whole or in part, or
may deny the request.
The Speaker shall be
authorized to take such action as may be necessary and proper to
enforce any subpoena or subpoena duces tecum.
Rule 66 was first used by the Redress Committee in mid-June 2012, The proposed subpoena would have been directed at a sealed envelope held by a certain Guardian ad Litem Bruce Wechsler: petitioner David Johnson believes this envelope contains exculpatory evidence. I am not sure that it even exists, and if it does exist it might not contain exculpatory evidence.
The next step was to make a request to the Committee on Rules. The Rules Committee, had a good technical reason to deny the request. Wechsler's now-legendary envelope was not mentioned in the original petition: the sealed envelope is something David Johnson and his sponsors added to the petition after it came to the Redress Committee. We have been informed (apparently by the Speaker) that no amendments can be made to these petitions once they are submitted, and we have been forced to deal with several petitions with wrong names in them. In the case of the Katz-Grodman petition, one of the petitioners' names is wrong: Arnold Grodman is referred to erroneously as Arnold Goodman.
The Rules Committee met with rather short notice on the morning of Thursday, September 6th and unanimously denied the subpoena request. By then, the Redress Committee had actually voted on the petition and filed a pair of reports in the House Calendar. The fact that the Redress Committee had already disposed of Johnson's petition was one factor behind the Rules Committee's decision, but the main problem turned out to be that the Redress Committee never submitted anything in writing which explained why the subpoena was necessary.
The House Democratic caucus issued the following press release on June 20, 2012 about the subpoena:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Eileen Kelly] 603-271-2136 June 20, 2012
House Democrats Call for an End of Abuse of Power by Legislative Committee
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CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE – On June 14th, The House Redress of Grievances Committee voted along party lines to subpoena "sealed records" in a petition currently before the committee. Democrats on the committee voted against allowing the subpoena. The case, Petition 5 on behalf of David Johnson of Londonderry, involves a custody dispute concerning a minor child. The subpoena must still be approved by the House Rules Committee, which is chaired by Speaker O'Brien. "Petition 5 has been before the committee for the past fifteen months and only now the Republicans on the committee are getting around to requesting more information. This committee is a waste of taxpayers' money and a waste of state resources," stated Representative Sandra Keans of Rochester. "The committee is delving into areas that could threaten the safety of at-risk children and could also be in violation of the HIPPA act when health records are used against a former spouse in a case. The legislature should not be going after materials that have been legitimately closed by the courts." "This subpoena is an attempt to unseal an envelope which was presumably sealed for good reason. The committee does not need this information to reach a fair decision on the Johnson petition," stated Representative Tim Horrigan of Durham. "There is abundant documentation related to the Johnson petition already available to us." "I call on House Republicans on the Rules Committee to join me in voting against allowing this subpoena to go forward," said Representative Terie Norelli, House Democratic Leader. "This is a brazen abuse of power which puts law abiding citizens and minor children in jeopardy of having their privacy violated by the state. This exploitation by the legislature must stop immediately before more harm is done." The House Redress of Grievances Committee is an archaic committee that was reinstituted by Speaker O'Brien at the beginning of this legislative session. The committee has primarily dealt with complaints from litigants in cases involving child custody and support who were displeased with the court ruling. The Attorney General's office has also expressed concerns about child protection issues that are subject to strict confidentiality requirements and about the subpoenas compelling people to testify or produce records before the committee. X X X
Eileen
Kelly
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At the very end of the 2012 session, two weeks after the election, the Legislative Ethics Committee issued an interpretive ruling. I can't go into any detail about what prompted this ruling, since the proceedings were confidential. But I think it is OK to acknowledge that I was one of the people who inspired it.
I posted some material on my web site which arguably didn't need to be reposted, even if it had already been released into the public domain by the petitioners and/or the sponsors. I am reasonably comfortable with the ruling, although there are some cases where it is useful to let the public know what evidence is being presented to support a petition, even when that evidence is questionable.
INTERPRETIVE RULING 2012-#3 (November 14, 2012) Supplementing Interpretive Ruling 2011-#1 Relating to Obligations of Legislators in Connection with Proposed Petitions for the Redress of Grievances |
Further questions have arisen regarding the obligations of legislators in connection with requests from members of the public to present petitions for redress of grievances on their behalf. Specifically, the questions are
The Committee has reviewed applicable provisions of the New Hampshire Constitution, statutes, rules, and Ethics Guidelines governing the conduct of legislators in the performance of their duties as such, and interprets them as follows.
Martin L. Gross, Chairman For the Committee
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See Also:
Chairman Ingbretson's November 28, 2012 "Special Report To The Speaker"
Attorney General Delaney's April 9, 2012 letter to Speaker Bill O'Brien
November 3, 2012 This American Life story about Bill O'Brien's Speakership: "Nothing in Moderation"
"The New Hampshire Declaration of Abjuration and Reformation"
My October 31, 2012 Foster's Daily Democrat op-ed against CACR 26
Republican Redress Committee members' September 28, 2012 press conference
Video of Dr. David Vandenberg's February 21, 2012 Petition #11 testimony
Video of Josh Youssef's February 2 & subsequent Petition #26 testimony
Video of Dr. David Vandenberg & Josh Youssef with WEZS radio's Tom Brown; February 22, 2012
Chairman Ingbretson's January 6, 2012 letter to Rep. Timothy Horrigan
Chairman Ingbretson's November 15, 2011 letter to DCYF Director Maggie Bishop
George Lambert's April 29, 2012 appearance on WMUR-TV's Political Scoop, hosted by James Pindell
Kevin Avard's "Speak Up!" videos:
March 31, 2011 NH Supreme Court decision: "In the Matter of Miller & Todd"
Official Petitions & Redress committee page (not much to see here)
January 26, 2012 NHPR story: "Budget Cuts Threaten Parental Rights" (low-income parents now no longer have lawyers in family court)